2010 MuskieFIRST Online Seminar Series, Tony Grant
Mar 11th, 2010 by OutdoorsFIRST
Modified Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Steve_Worrall: MuskieFIRST Welcomes Tony Grant, Welcome, Tony!
Steve_Worrall: Fire away with the questions!
archerynut36: when do your fish spawn in Kentucky
leech_lake_strain: when using big swimbaits what method do you find on average proves more success ripping, slow roll, ect
Tony_Grant: Not an expert on those guys , but with other rubber I like ti pull and drop
Steve_Worrall: What does the early Muskie season on the Cave look like Tony?
jdsplasher: Tony; How successful was your school last year on Vermilion?
Tony_Grant: Slow start can be good the long term rain looks to be below average that a good thing
Steve_Worrall: Hows the water level now?
Tony_Grant: Big V School had 2 good days 4 bad days and nights tough
Tony_Grant: It was successful causes everybody had a great time
Stinky: Tony, was Chad Cain’s recent big fish caught on your Rattlin’ Shad?
Tony_Grant: The Big V kick my butt last year for the most part
_lil__Tuffy: I know you guys use rattlebaits alot, I’ve even heard of throoling them, what kind of depths can you achieve while trolling rattle baits?
Tony_Grant: That was a great fish caught on one of my very old patterns
Tony_Grant: What a pig
NOFEAR: Can you talk about color a little bit. Does color really matter when throwing bucktails (Cowgirls) and are there certain baits that color is more important than others.
Brad_R: Tony, what rod length and action of the Okuma’s do you use for 10’s, how bout Mag Dawgs?
Tony_Grant: I think Gregg has about 10 so far trolling them there great a 3 to 4 mph but longlining works We troll in 3 feet with them
leech_lake_strain: do you change your retrieve with every cast or how often do you change speed or action
Tony_Grant: I use Lamiglas rods for over 15 years now, but Okuma 9 3 is a hell of a rod and ad the price its a no brainer for the big stuff
Tony_Grant: I have found color is a big part of all baits
archerynut36: what are your favorit colors
Tony_Grant: When you have 6 guides working out of a resort and when you meet at night to report to many times color is matched with the guys that caught fish
jdsplasher: Tony; What are your favorite topwater baits?
Steve_Worrall: Do you have open guiding dates available on the Cave this Spring?
Tony_Grant: If I am casting in the tight same area I almost always change up
Tony_Grant: Cave Run Chart Orange Pink
Tony_Grant: Up north Pinl browns and golds
Tony_Grant: Cant beat the top raider but at times the Pacemakers my choice.
Tony_Grant: Love creepers more and more
scares_fish: When trying to pattern fish, how long do you work a bait before changing to a different bait? After you change baits do you worj an area a second time or move to new water?
archerynut36: in the pacemakers do u like the wood ones or the new plastic ones
Tony_Grant: I have just a few but Scott, Jimmy B Lance, Darrly and good old Charlie have opennings
Tony_Grant: I often work the same areas over many times making lure changes
archerynut36: do u fish the same area at different angles
Tony_Grant: I like both Pacemakers it seems you can get more speed when neeeded out of the plastic without rolling
Tony_Grant: Every piece of structure is worth 2 shots
leech_lake_strain: what’s your thoughts on walk the dog top waters, not as much action maybe or?
Tony_Grant: Good action low percentage hook up but sometimes that’s what they want
Steve_Worrall: What waters are you guiding this year, and when do you make the move to new areas?
scares_fish: Is it more important to match the forage of a lake or play the weather ( sunny vs overcast)?
Tony_Grant: Ill get to Vilas during the first week of June my 8th year at Bonnies Lakeside
Muskyhunter24: What is the night bite like on the cave?
Tony_Grant: For the hours Ive put in poor
Tony_Grant: Scres-fish is that a trick question
archerynut36: when u use rattlebaits do they work better being burned or just straight cranked
Steve_Worrall: What is your favorite Wisconsin lake/sysyem?
scares_fish: After I typed it and re-read it I was wondering myself
TJ: what makes you troll or cast in spring, how do you decide?
Tony_Grant: Love Twin, Seven Mile Kentuck
Tony_Grant: I troll when I can’t catch um casting or by customer request
Tony_Grant: Many days trollers and casters find the same success
Tony_Grant: I love the Chip it kicks my butt but what a body of water Ive had some big shots there
Muskyhunter24: do you prefer the clear or the dark side?
Tony_Grant: You have to mix up the rattlebaits
TJ: any particular baits you prefer for trolling and casting?
Booted_Again: How are the Launchs @ the cave and parking ?
Tony_Grant: Its fun and challenging to fish both
Tony_Grant: Love trolling the Krushers also Leo Lures and Tuff Shad
Lars: What are some major differences you find fishing Kentucky lakes vs. northern lakes?
jdsplasher: Whats the deepest you run your cranks on the cave?
Tony_Grant: Steve are we going to get together a Muskie first outing for 2011?
Steve_Worrall: yes we are, for sure
Steve_Worrall: 2011 Sprng Outing On the Cave
Brad_R: Do you downsize lures in Vilas?
Tony_Grant: Reservoirs, imagine fishing a lake that one day is clear and stable water then two days later fishing a 4 foot jump in coffee colored water
Steve_Worrall: Some of the best we’ve had have been at the Cave
Tony_Grant: Not only to have 2 more days when the water has been released
Tony_Grant: The Lakes are tuff as any we average a 14 foot swing to water pools
Buckhorn in near 30 and Green River over 20 That some changin stuff tuff to pattern
archerynut36: when in muddy water do u see that noise outdoes vibration? or vice versa
Tony_Grant: Yea alot Ill get back in size early although my largest June fish came on the monster medusa
MIKE: What is your number one confidence bait on the Cave?
Tony_Grant: I think its a combo of Noise speed and vibration that is most successful
Tony_Grant: Chartrese black dot hellhound in spring
Tony_Grant: Maybe THE BIG BANANNA SLEDGE
MIKE: Good Choice!
Tony_Grant: Love the rattlebait bite
TJ: What’s one piece of advice to a guy coming to the Cave for the first time ever in the spring?
Tony_Grant: YOu can’t get to shallow
Booted_Again: Whats the best times to be on the water at the cave in the spring , or does it really not matter changes by the day ??
Tony_Grant: Numbers early bigger in late April and May although some hawgs are caught early like the one on the opening page
MIKE: Do you use the big saltwater reels like the Trinidad up north or down south?
Tony_Grant: No just my Okumas
Tony_Grant: Speed is key sometimes up in Minnesota I am going to try the Saltise?
Brad_R: What do you think about the st Louis river fishery?
Steve_Worrall: Any insight as to the new Okuma on the way in the 400 size?
chasintails: I’m considering a trip down to the cave the last week in March. Do you think that would be a good time to come down or will the fish be going through the motions, and not interested much in eating?
Tony_Grant: Hear great things about it Like the St Croix I can’t wait to fish it
Tony_Grant: most of them will be no where near spawning routine that early
chasintails: what kind of water temps should I expect?
Tony_Grant: I Just started using the Akeena great reel for the price I think they have some big surprises in new reels soon
Tony_Grant: 55 to 60 morning temps can vary 2or 3 each way
chasintails: sorry meant water temps
Tony_Grant: That week generally is our best week of the month
Tony_Grant: Mother nature’s queen
Lars: Is burning double 10’s as popular down south as it is up north?
Tony_Grant: I never burn double 10s I usually lower to 8’s or 6’s
Tony_Grant: I best percentage with double 10s is slowly moving them above cover just enough to stay out of cover
Steve_Worrall: How dId you do with the Hybrids last season?
Tony_Grant: On these southern waters weather is a big key its allot different fishing rising water than falling clear or muddy
Tony_Grant: Not good Steve only 4 over 40 and that the worse year going back to 2002 too COLD WATER Never got where they like it
Booted_Again: hows the cave for wind, boat control , big waves ?? min boat size ?
Tony_Grant: big fat 46 the biggest
Steve_Worrall: Hopefully we’ll have a real Spring and Summer this year
Tony_Grant: Not much of a factor early season in the coves and creeks and not bad when the bite turns to the main lake
archerynut36: signal must be bad in mountains..lol
Tony_Grant: Every thing slow here
Tony_Grant: Got some great fisherman this weekend and it shoukd be exciting I hope
chasintails: What kind of water temps are you guys fishing right now?
Tony_Grant: Ive heard of nothing big here yet but is going to happen any day we got 3 today small
TJ: what kind of water temps get things going in the spring at the cave?
heckster: line color? Lb test? @the cave
Tony_Grant: 42 to 43
Tony_Grant: Heavy line helps at the Cave too much timber
Tony_Grant: Hey Mark
Mark_Gostisha: Hi Tony long Time
Tony_Grant: Miss having a few with you
Mark_Gostisha: Same here
Tony_Grant: Mark how’s the north woods
Mark_Gostisha: Covered in ice here.
Mark_Gostisha: No skiing for a while
Tony_Grant: I was with you buddy Dietz this weekend, I guess He’s heading north
Tony_Grant: Good for him
Tony_Grant: the only ice here is in my glass of Makers Mark
Mark_Gostisha: I was late coming in, had to close the store
Mark_Gostisha: have you had a good season?
Tony_Grant: Its always fun
Steve_Worrall: Last questions for Tony?
Tony_Grant: Mark Pack up and head down Ive got a couple of days for you
Lars: Best tactic for pressured waters?
Mark_Gostisha: We will be close in a couple weeks. Going to Carbondale to see our new grand daughter
archerynut36: sounds like fun mark u should take him up on it
Tony_Grant: Prsssured waters are where persistent and confidence pay I’ve seen it happen way to often
Tony_Grant: Stay on the good spots and get your chances
Steve_Worrall: MuskieFIRST Thanks Tony Grant for a very informative hour, thanks again, Tony.
archerynut36: thanks Tony
Mark_Gostisha: Be good Tony
Booted_Again: Thanks for your time Tony goodnight and god bless